The game has changed

[Udayan @ Jan 9th 2007 2:44PM]

Dum dum da dum dum da dum da dum da dum... (or something like that)
T-Mobile carrying it in the UK?

[dave @ Jan 9th 2007 2:53PM]

doubt that. should be available on all network in the uk. never heard of network exclusivity over here.

[Jonesy @ Jan 10th 2007 5:17PM]

Vodaphone has Sharp models exclusive in the UK.

And I just hope to god it isn't them or orange who get this in the UK. Though it deffo won't be 3 (with it not being a 3G handset, which is cool as 3 customer service is awful!)

[Kipp Davis @ Jan 9th 2007 2:53PM]

You're kidding, right?

[resource @ Jan 9th 2007 2:54PM]

At least RIM is trying with there new slim Pearl phones.

Palm refuses to slim their phones down and add Wi-Fi.

Apple will shake this shit up!
Dinosaurs be ware.
Thank god.

[Berkana @ Jan 9th 2007 6:23PM]

Palm faced impending competition with the arrogance of Sony, and they will face a fate similar to what Sony is facing in the console market. Sony can survive this, but I doubt Palm can. Here's a quote from Palm's CEO (in an interview with the Mercury News, Nov. 2006):

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Responding to questions from New York Times correspondent John Markoff at a Churchill Club breakfast gathering Thursday morning, Colligan laughed off the idea that any company — including the wildly popular Apple Computer — could easily win customers in the finicky smart-phone sector.

“We’ve learned and struggled for a few years here figuring out how to make a decent phone,” he said. “PC guys are not going to just figure this out. They’re not going to just walk in.”

[Erik_the_Red @ Jan 9th 2007 6:17PM]

Yep, Palm deserves a good kick for dropping the ball on this. I've been a longtime Palm customer, and have been waiting (and waiting) for my Palm OS6 WiFi-enabled Treo. Nothing. Depending on what additional programs the Apple iPhone can support -- it DOES run OSX, after all -- Palm might have just lost another customer.
Serves them right.

[csjk789 @ Jan 9th 2007 6:43PM]

dinosaurs? This device is more innovative than the wii. but if you want to talk about ancient, EDGE. NO HSDPA/UMTS! SHAME ON YOU APPLE.

....I'll still be buying one ASAP.

[Darth Tony @ Jan 9th 2007 2:55PM]

Priceless.

[dr. dee @ Jan 9th 2007 3:01PM]

I would say: Pricey.

Waiting for real reviews now. If its as easy and seemless as it looks, its just awesome...

but still pricey, and that's with a two year contract...

How much for an unlocked one, I wonder....

[Michael.NET @ Jan 9th 2007 2:59PM]

I'm betting Apple isn't going after smartphones, or PDAs, but rather Microsoft's UMPC...very tricky of them.

[Jeremy K. @ Jan 9th 2007 3:00PM]

The UMPC was/is a flop.

[Matt V @ Jan 9th 2007 3:00PM]

RIMM has so much corporate lock-in that this won't affect them.

Palm, on the other hand, is screwed. They've had years to innovate and chose to basically do nothing.

Anyone want to buy my GSM Treo 650 in June?

[Berkana @ Jan 9th 2007 6:22PM]

Remember these famous last words from Palm's CEO?

"We've learned and struggled for a few years here figuring out how to make a decent phone," he said. "PC guys are not going to just figure this out. They're not going to just walk in".
--Ed Colligan, CEO of Palm. (Mercury News, Nov. 2006)

(from http://daringfireball.net/2006/11/colligan_head_stuck )

[TheCount @ Jan 10th 2007 12:18AM]

It is pricy, but the fact that it merges your phone/pda/ipod into one device is great.

I'm curious about just how scratch resistant this thing will end up being though, lord knows the iPod was already a disaster if left unprotected, and that didn't involve you putting your hands all over the screen.

[BAMF @ Jan 9th 2007 3:01PM]

Oh SNAP!

[brian @ Jan 9th 2007 3:01PM]

Is Palm's CEO still laughing about Apple's Phone......???????? I doubt it.......... they should be afraid....... very afraid from what i can see.

[brian @ Jan 9th 2007 3:06PM]

Palm just got bitch slapped!!!!!!

[andy @ Jan 9th 2007 3:09PM]

If iPhone can't open word, excel, visio, and pdf files, then Palm has NOTHING to worry about.


data plans and phones are sold to enterprise users and we NEED our documents. That's the whole point. If Apple can't do that, then this is all going to be too expensive for the average Joe and not deliver core features to corporate america.

[Crassmonkey2k5 @ Jan 9th 2007 3:16PM]

Um, you did hear the part about running OSX right? OSX can run the OSX version of the Office Suite just fine...... Oh Snap!

[KingSquirrel @ Jun 19th 2007 11:44AM]

If its running OS X, has 8GB of storage... there is no doubt it would be able to open anything OS X could... hince it will be the end of palm.

[nicholas @ Jan 9th 2007 3:13PM]

I do doubt that the phone will only be available through ATT. Buy one unlocked from Apple, just like I purchase all of my other phones...

Apple is going to own the high-end consumer space, which RIM was picking up. If the iPhone wasn't announced, I would have purchased one. Palm, while still going, is in need of a consumer tie-in. This may simply mean more involvement with Microsoft. I can't see the Palm platform being extended. They don't have the resources.

If Apple created a messaging platform, or if Google created a licensable back-end system that IT folks could route through, things could get interesting. We're a bit overdue for some messaging/email innovation.

[nemi @ Jan 9th 2007 3:19PM]

I am guessing that OSX application development environments for simulating the iPhone will be out very soon. Developers will then have 4-5 months to have a huge collection of widgets and software ported to this phone.

All the major players will be in on the act (Flash, PDF viewers, "office document" viewers, RSS feed clients etc.)

[brian @ Jan 9th 2007 3:13PM]

it is running os x so.... hello yeah it can open all those files

[Arun @ Jan 9th 2007 3:13PM]

Yes.. the fact that big guys like google and yahoo are in make it very difficult for other companies to shine. Pricing of the hardware aside, I am wondering what kind of plan is needed and if things like iChat (I hate paying for texting) , if not any other application will be supported.

[dr. dee @ Jan 9th 2007 3:46PM]

Running OS X doesnt mean running office.

It should be obvious that this is a version of OS X specifically tailored for the phone. Call it "OS X mobile" if you will.

Hopefully they will release mobile office apps for OS X mobile, but they didnt say anything about it yet...

For one thing, everything is touch screen driven, so all the interfaces would probably have to be redesigned (unless you want some half-assed apps)

[waffles @ Jan 10th 2007 11:46PM]

erm, go read the latest engadget post....no office support at all >_>.

i was looking so forward to this, but the $600 + no physical keyboard + no 3g + CINGULAR (which does in fact support 3g....) + lack of actual smartphoneyness(ability to install 3rd party apps like on wm5/palm)...
don't get me wrong, if there is a 2nd gen cheaper model and some homebrew from people, and DEFINATELY a price drop of some sort, i would be all for it.

[irrread @ Jan 9th 2007 3:17PM]

It looks like a nice convergence device but not something I can carry in my back pocket. The PDA died and Smartphones are taking over. Maybe Apple thinks an iPod with a phone is da future.

And I just don't see how they are going to deliver on battery life.

[ryan m. @ Jan 9th 2007 9:46PM]

I think this was long overdue but a brilliant add-on to the iPod market. Like Chocolate and peanut butter have come together. Phone + iPod. The battery life will be handled with the addition of cheaper and cheaper solid state drives.

The most interesting thing to me is the fact that Apple has implicitly shelved the Mac OS on a PC for an OS that will run on phones/small devices. Image how much more money they could make if they licensed the OS on phones rather than PC's. 900+ million phones and growing by leaps and bounds. if they take just 1% of that jobs noted. What about 20%?

[aga @ Jan 9th 2007 3:17PM]

does somebody here think Apple will use all those technologies they developed (and patented) over the years only in this device?

try to think a bit further ...

[L. M. Lloyd @ Jan 9th 2007 3:19PM]

I don't even understand what this 'article' means. Apple stock sees a bump during Macworld, and "the game has changed?" Actually, Apple stock seeing a bump during Macworld seems like what always happens, what does it have to do with any game changing?

[tundraboy @ Jan 9th 2007 3:58PM]

And the idiot of the day is. . .

Around 12:21 eastern, somebody sold 1.67 Million shares of AAPL at 85.28, bumping the price down about 2.50. Talk about panic selling. AAPL then began to rise and is right now just below 92. Nervous Nellie is so eating $8 Million on that smart move.

[stenor @ Jan 9th 2007 4:30PM]

Please Mr.Lloyd, it is not just Apple shown in the graph, ResearchInMotion & Palm are as well... compare!

[irrread @ Jan 9th 2007 3:19PM]

Oh, and Palm is irrelevant at this point. Even Microsoft has had limited success after 5 years of hammering on the market. Apple has ONE launch carrier with a device that costs TWICE as much as the competition.

Motorola, Nokia and Samsung are all YAWNING.

[okto @ Jan 9th 2007 3:41PM]

The iPod costs almost twice as much as some of its competition.
Price point must be why Apple is trailing in the DAP market, and why they won't be able to do the same thing in the mobile market.

[Paula @ Jan 9th 2007 3:22PM]

HTC just needs to bring out a new WM PPC phone with more storage. I think my 6700 bests RIM and Palm's offering in flexibility and capabitilies by far. All they would have to do would be add in the 8 GBs of flash memory and anyone else on the market would be owned.
Touchscreen, QWERTY, 3G data, a decent form factor, good Windows integration, and a huge developer community... Yeah.

Who wants to bet Apple doesn't license OS X Mobile out to anyone else? pfft...

[Mitch @ Jan 9th 2007 3:24PM]

My god, can they be stopped? This will inevitably be another of Apple's beautiful triumphs. I can't wait!

[mitch @ Jan 10th 2007 11:32AM]

All of you who are dogging on it are the same people who didn't think the IPod was worth the money..... buy a cheap knock off & have fun!

[brian @ Jan 9th 2007 3:27PM]

it is not as bigg as you think as matter of fact it is much smaller than treo and it is a phone not just a pda

[Esat @ Jan 9th 2007 3:32PM]

If Apple's brand power was somehow harnessed and expressed in the form of a big robot, the statistics would indicate that basical... I.. I just would not want to fuck with that robot.

[Berkana @ Jan 9th 2007 6:23PM]

True. Apple was able to generate more publicity around this phone by saying absolutely nothing than Microsoft was able to generate around the Zune with their astroturfing and millions spent on advertising. But all it takes is one bad year to really destroy brand strength: look at Sony. They seemed unstoppable for two Play Station generations, and now, their PS3 sits on the shelves gathering dusts. If it could happen to Sony, it could happen to Apple.

[Sean @ Jan 9th 2007 3:33PM]

Andy, are you kidding me?

It runs OS X! With that type of developer base, this unit is fairly unstoppable...msoffice shouldn't be much of an issue at all.
Except for a)build quality issues on 1st gen, b)unlockability (fer us t-mo folks), and c)blackberry pearl resale market!

[Arun @ Jan 9th 2007 3:36PM]

I don't think so irrread... your reaction is the the same as the one that everyone had when the iPod came out and look what happened now. Even I thought the ipod was expensive but I've got one in my pocket rite now. The simple fact that guys like my dad (who completely hates new technology) want this is amazing. Apple has reached true convergence.

[jaffa cake @ Jan 9th 2007 3:42PM]

That graph makes me smile.

[Alan Strangis @ Jan 9th 2007 3:48PM]

Time to snap up some RIM (and maybe Palm) shares?

Anyone using a smartphone with a keyboard isn't gonna ditch their Blackberry/Treo/Wizard for this. Seriously. The keyboard is what defines these things.

Right now, I think SE and Nokia should be more worried than RIM/Palm...

[Meatwad @ Jan 9th 2007 3:50PM]

I guess this means an end to PalmOS, although I hope not. There'd better be lots of developers for this platform or it's screwed. I'd hate to see a world where it's WM and Apple and no PalmOS...I've got too many good apps that I use daily.

[Jamie @ Jan 9th 2007 4:16PM]

Don't forget, though... he still got $142 million from the sale.

[Grammar freak @ Jan 9th 2007 3:59PM]

pwned

[everrette powell @ Jan 9th 2007 4:02PM]

thank you for helping me check my portfolio

[jason @ Jan 9th 2007 4:10PM]

how has "the game changed" based upon a few hours of results on a day when apple announces a new phone product and no other competitors do?

that's like saying osu will win the bcs game after watching the first 15 seconds of last nights game. you have no idea what's going to happen in the future. this is just the first few hours of the first day.